I can tell you what it's gonna be like: a living HELL ON EARTH!!!!

[Posted by amanda on Thu., Dec 18, 2003 at 2:16 PM]

when the fox and symphony and sheldon and jazz at the bistro all have events - it's already a living hell.

and even more amazing that 90% of the folks all try to get off hwy 40 onto grand at the same time. vandeventer, jefferson, compton - take a walk on the wild side people...

[Posted by dale on Thu., Dec 18, 2003 at 4:31 PM]

Hopefully, part of the development plans will include improved access to the area from 40 and a tram from the MetroLink station. Actually, just implementing more frequent bus service from the MetroLink station during peak rush times would help in theory, but there'd have to be a massive social engineering campaign to get people to take the bus. I take the #70 up Grand to The Commonspace every week, and I've never seen anyone get off to go to the Fox or the Symphony. People don't seem to have any problem taking MetroLink to a Rams, Blues or Cardinals game, but they don't have to transfer to a bus to get to where they're going.

[Posted by Brian Marston on Fri., Dec 19, 2003 at 11:18 AM]

For one, the Grand bus is one of the most disturbing collections of humanity on the face of the planet. I think a shuttle would probably work.

Besides the population of the 70, a full size bus isn't very inviting to mass transit newbies. The drivers aren't trained to deal with people as customers and the sheer size of the bus is intimidating. People don't want to have to think about what bus to take--to alleviate that you'd have to educate them. Shuttles and the such would be far more inviting--or a trolley. Make it fun and they will come. Sit them next to the guy who hasn't showered in a week, smoking and drinking a 40 on the 70 and they'll run screaming.

IOW, before they even run into the bizarro world population on the bus, they are turned away.

[Posted by ArchPundit on Thu., Jan 8, 2004 at 1:22 AM]